Re: FAQ? and setup

echarp — 2007-03-21 14:15:23+0100

On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:17:53AM +0100, eggy wrote:

I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out there in such a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by second life.

Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

We definitely can. Me, I’m sticking with irc mainly. But klaus, cool guy that he is, has been working on a second life to irc bridge.

Read more… / Lire plus…

We’ll see how it goes, but it’s a great idea!

I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do not like the direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these “ideas” and the administration of government are completely absent.

It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A simple link for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional (abbreviated) post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on that post.

There also is parlement moderation, which could/should be used to highlight the most interesting parts. Well, that’s the idea anyway.

Then anybody could browse the forum, with the level of details they feel more confortable with.

Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy by majority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

I think there is mostly one solution: the right to secede. But it’s difficult to even present it…

Re: FAQ? and setup

eggy — 2007-03-05 08:42:28+0100

Used my mIRC and found # Parlement.
Yikes nobody on IRC — been few years since I logged on. Most use messengers now I expect or other ways.
Would have to schedule a meeting to use I expect. eggy

Re: FAQ? and setup

eggy — 2007-03-05 01:17:53+0100

I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out there in such a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by second life.

Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do not like the direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these “ideas” and the administration of government are completely absent.

It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A simple link for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional (abbreviated) post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on that post.

Read more… / Lire plus…

Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy by majority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

There MUST be POWER! But it must be controlled first by a Constitution which applies to the people as well as the government.

Power must be divided so one element does not have it all. Law is power, Courts are power, Agencies are power (needed to have retirement and health and education etc.)

A bit of history will reveal all so no sense my explaining this.

Bruce Eggum

Re: FAQ? and setup

eggy — 2007-03-21 14:39:07+0100

Yup, I’ll show them! I will secede! (Just call me “the man without a country”)
Unfortunately, the imperialists win that way too.

On 3/21/07, echarp <emmanuel.charpentier@free.fr> wrote:

+1

On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:17:53AM +0100, eggy wrote: > I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out there in > such a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by second life. > > Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

We definitely can. Me, I’m sticking with irc mainly. But klaus, cool guy that he is, has been working on a second life to irc bridge.

We’ll see how it goes, but it’s a great idea!

I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do not like the direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these “ideas” and the administration of government are completely absent.

It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A simple link for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional (abbreviated) post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on that post.

There also is parlement moderation, which could/should be used to highlight the most interesting parts. Well, that’s the idea anyway.

Then anybody could browse the forum, with the level of details they feel more confortable with.

Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy by majority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

I think there is mostly one solution: the right to secede. But it’s difficult to even present it…

Read more… / Lire plus…

— Bruce Eggum
Gresham Wisconsin, USA
Urge to Surge
http://tinyurl.com/yndynn
http://www.doinggovernment.com/
Check out my Blog too
http://bruceeggum.blogster.com/

vote

Re: FAQ? and setup

echarp — 2007-03-21 14:12:12+0100

+1 Welcome on the old irc world! ;)

Re: FAQ? and setup

eggy — 2007-03-05 01:37:54+0100

Hi Steve,
Glad you joined us.
I too am learning to access the buttons etc.

I think, (don’t know) that when you are taken to someones “posts” the ones which say 0 sub are actually votes and nothing to read. I think those which say 1 sub or 4 sub are text which you can read by clicking that element such as the second and forth below. setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_10>(0 sub element(s)) +1 – <04/03 20:00> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_8>(1 sub element(s)) -1 – <04/03 19:58> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_7>(0 sub element(s)) -1 – <04/03 12:20> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_4>(2 sub element(s))

- <05/03 01:17> Re: FAQ? and

Read more… / Lire plus…

To post use the white sheet of paper icon and to vote use the + and – icons. I think this program could do the things necessary to interact with government. When I say government, I do not mean not only Parliament and the Prime Minister. I mean the WHOLE government which includes the courts, law enforcement, agencies, military the WHOLE of it and THAT is what we want to control the WHOLE of it.

Bruce

On 3/4/07, MacHiavelli <anon@leparlement.org> wrote:

Re: FAQ? and setup

Hi there. I am very interested in this project but am having some problems assessing what it does and doesn’t do; I hope someone can explain how i get the tool up and running in order to assess its features.

More generally, I am interested in the web-moderated participative democracy. I am a politics student at an Irish university and interested in sponsoring a project at my college to develop an open source tool that delivers the above functionality. If there are other projects out there in this sphere that you feel are worth knowing about, then please share. Hopefully this can be the beginning of a productive exchange. Thanks and keep up the good work. Parlement <http://leparlement.org>

— Bruce Eggum
Gresham Wisconsin, USA
Urge to Surge
http://tinyurl.com/yndynn
http://www.doinggovernment.com/
Check out my Blog too
http://bruceeggum.blogster.com/

vote

Re: FAQ? and setup

echarp — 2007-03-04 20:52:29+0100

As you can see, there is currently no difference between a vote and a message/proposition.

That’s partly due to the fact that votes can be done by mail and/or on the web.

But maybe they could nonetheless be hidden on the web page and only consolidated in another sub page. That will be an evolution, a small one.

Re: FAQ? and setup

echarp — 2007-03-04 12:46:18+0100

I now see Mac Hiavelli msg and suppose I am responding to it. How do I respond directly to the FAQ?

I think the main message was in private or something. I don’t have it either. It might be lost!? Will have to dig into that.

On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:20:59PM +0100, eggy wrote:

Re: FAQ? and setup

I am confused as to how to view the messages. I kept clicking, and the message came and went but repeating the process did not work.

Read more… / Lire plus…

The most important thing to consider, is the filter. But you can override a filter for each element, clicking on the “V” or ”>” knobs.

When I click a name, it takes me to choices of message title. I cannot access them. Are they simply votes?

You can’t access them? Strange, a click should be all that is needed.

Re: FAQ? and setup

eggy — 2007-03-04 12:20:59+0100

I am confused as to how to view the messages. I kept clicking, and the message came and went but repeating the process did not work.

I now see Mac Hiavelli msg and suppose I am responding to it. How do I respond directly to the FAQ?

When I click a name, it takes me to choices of message title. I cannot access them. Are they simply votes?

I did not see Mac Hiavelli message on the main parliament page to access it. ??

Bruce

Re: FAQ? and setup

MacHiavelli — 2007-02-11 23:52:44+0100