echarp wrote: >Serge wrote: > > Obviously mark’s stance on citizens is questionnable for many here.
ec: Definitely, yes. But what is worse is the online personality he displays.
-M: WTF? Where have I broken rules or been unfair?
ec: Yet I think everybody has a personal story, and everybody can change for the best if given the opportunity to. Around a beer, or online in an irc chat, mark could possibly learn to appreciate democracy. But we have to do with what we have. (democracy, rule by the demo)
-M: You even agreed that SD2-S is technically ‘democracy’.
So I do respect democracy.
You seem to direspect republicanism.
But isn’t this the whole point of the system, that because we do disagree in sometimes important ways, we might be able to come to practical solutions that offer a greater deal of flexibility?
ec: What of the deep disagreements and disagreeable personality traits?
So I hope I am not being rude by suggesting this, but would it be possible for you to just collaborate on whatever is possible while keeping disagreements constructive and focused on the practical features and functionnalities of a TOP system?
ec: You are not being rude. Trouble is that the disagreement is profound, and the arguments he propose amount to nothing but insults (“lemming”).
-M: Who voted for the Bushmonkey if not lemmings? People keep dodging the TRUTH.
ec: Yet he also pushes for a technical system with parts which are very much alike lomax’s and even mine’s. Shame shame shame.
-M: Your V-V-V and my SD2-S are DP systems, like what Lomax endorses. My system is the most REPUBLICAN because it is the one with the most lemming filtration.
shanti
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Mark,
Your post contains no practical suggestion or constructive part.
Failing that, I don’t see a point in discussing any further. It’s
really a shame because your very presence on the group shows you have a
similar concern to ours in bringing more participation to the political
process.
Serge
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+1 of course.
How many points until he reconsiders his positions?
How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this forum?
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ec: +1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions?
-M: What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
ec: How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this forum?
-M: I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
shanti
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You consider “people” lemmings and the enemy of democracy, yet democracy is “rule by the people”, hence, you are not really a democrat.
+1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions?
What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
You are a disagreeable person, so excuse me for not enjoying your company.
How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this forum?
I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
See what I mean by “disagreeable”? Mark, you are not a person I appreciate, and I do not consider you of interest.
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ec: -1 You consider “people” lemmings and the enemy of democracy, yet democracy is “rule by the people”, hence, you are not really a democrat.
-M: No, only most of the people are lemmings. SD2-S allows the lemmings to select non-lemmings.
ec: +1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions? M: What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
ec: You are a disagreeable person,...
M: I am very lovable. :)
I think that you would like me in person.
ec: ...so excuse me for not enjoying your company.
-M: You did dodge again. Are you being the best Emmanuel that you can be?
How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this forum?
M: I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
ec: See what I mean by “disagreeable”? Mark, you are not a person I appreciate, and I do not consider you of interest.
-M: My techniques are powerful.
Don’t you find power to be interesting?
See, I am a mind control expert.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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Its been a while since last time I read Marks posts. To many ad hominems, proving inconsistency for a sake of inconsistency, no goal orientation.
Too bad.
ATB,
Gale
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G: +1 Its been a while since last time I read Marks posts. To many ad hominems,...
-M: Where?
G:...proving inconsistency for a sake of inconsistency, ...
-M: Where?
G: no goal orientation. Too bad. ATB, Gale
-M: I’ll get there. Right now I am just responding to people.
shanti
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S: Mark, Your post contains no practical suggestion or constructive part.
-M: Agreed.
S: Failing that, I don’t see a point in discussing any further.
-M: You have practical suggestions?
S: It’s really a shame because your very presence on the group shows you have a similar concern to ours in bringing more participation to the political process. Serge
-M: WTF are you doing?
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