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    <title>[top-politics] Re: TOP oriented to individual, not organisation</title>
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      <title>[top-politics] Re: TOP oriented to individual, not organisation</title>
      <pubDate>2006-12-10 23:28:25+0100</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>illegale</dc:creator>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MG wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; More practical to have the party certifed as I see it.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Hmnh. There is a fundamental problem between our aproaches. You want to
&amp;gt; make certificate for an average Joe who is not even interested in
&amp;gt; politics in this very time and I want to enable those who are
&amp;gt; politically active right now to empower them with this certification.
&amp;gt; So, as long as we have different focus groups, it seems we will have
&amp;gt; different products too.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; -Well, there is no need to certify all members expressing their will in
&amp;gt; an AD-system.
&amp;gt; For delegates or more powerful adminstrators there is indeed.
&amp;gt; But all working inside an AD-organization on a higher level that zero
&amp;gt; (citizen) should be obliged to follow &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt;-principles.
&amp;gt; The only difference I see is that you rely more on todays politicians
&amp;gt; and organizations and I more on a competing organization, aimed to take
&amp;gt; ower in the future.
&amp;gt; So, sure, there can be different options in this, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed. And it should be, actually. We are far from the moment when we
sould reach concensus based on experience and wider knowledge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Whoever makes it, it will be some good progress from this very moment
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; -Yes!
&amp;gt; Shall we now form a formal, international organization &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt;, to which
&amp;gt; all certified organizations can connect and be connected as long as
&amp;gt; they fulfill &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt; as upheld and defined by this international
&amp;gt; organzation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="readMore" href="#" onclick="Element.hide(this); Element.removeClassName(this.parentNode.nextSibling, 'tooLarge'); return false;"&gt;Read more&amp;#8230; / Lire plus&amp;#8230;&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Maybe we should reach Stallman to help us out about creating such
organisation. The problem I see in this very moment (in Tiaktiv) is the
statute that has too many gaps not to be easily overtaken by the people
that might be far from &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt;. As long as this problem is not solved, I am
not willing to link organisation directly to any decision we might find
correct.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Can Tiaktiv be this international org?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We in Tiaktiv are oriented towards creating structure for &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt; politics.
In that manner it might be good think. Yet, Tiaktiv as formal
organisation is rather weak and I do not trust to its form. So, I hope
we will get into contact to Stallman (he developed &lt;span class="caps"&gt;GNU&lt;/span&gt; licence) to see
how could we svolve our issue in the best manner we could.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW. In this very time I believe we do not need any organisation for
development of any &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TOP&lt;/span&gt; definition. For an example, Tiaktiv might
support one definition AD develops, or vice versa. I believe this way
might solve the potential problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;ATB&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;br/&gt;
Gale&lt;/p&gt;
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