[top-politics] Re: TOP oriented to individual, not organisation

illegale — 2006-12-04 19:40:50+0100

Thx Serge.

I did not now for him.

ATB,

Gale

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[top-politics] collective action management system / inroads

Mark Rosst — 2006-11-25 22:52:35+0100

>S: […]but is the following pledge what you had in mind?
> http://www.vpsystems.net/Nevada/?page_id=50
> by the way, from what I could gather, I think this guy has lost to a
> republican

-M: *R*epublican not *r*epublican.
example: I am a republican but not a Republican.

Proper noun vs. common noun.

>S: Regards, Serge

[top-politics] Re: TOP oriented to individual, not organisation

Serge — 2006-11-25 14:20:27+0100

Hey Gale,

Emmanuel knew about this already, so maybe you do too, but is the
following pledge what you had in mind?

http://www.vpsystems.net/Nevada/?page_id=50

by the way, from what I could gather, I think this guy has lost to a
republican.

Regards,

Serge

[top-politics] Re: TOP oriented to individual, not organisation

Gordan Ponjavic — 2006-11-24 18:08:36+0100

Serge wrote:

> The birth of political ISO certification. Talk about what a kick in the
> anthill that would be…
>
> Joke aside, I agree that a certification makes sense for organizations.
> And I must say I find the idea of certifying individuals quite
> incongruous.

Hmh. I am thinking about manifest, not certification. Thing that
explains why I as a politician accept TOP in my work.

> Most if not all certifications of individuals today are
> done following some kind of training and standardized form of exam or
> assessment (thinking of doctors, lawyers, techniciancs, assermented
> public officers, etc).

Read more… / Lire plus…

In some time, it makes sense to make trainings for TOP politicians, as
long as todays politician schools are based on regular politics where
use of Internet is practically not existent. Doctors who teach young
politicians in those schools regularly ignore internet. I do not blame
them, as long as free info flow means completely new approach which
eliminates big part of traditional doctrine.

> A method that could be used to certify someone – a political figure I
> assume – as TOP is something I have a lot of trouble imagining. Where
> do you start? How can you be sure you are not only being given access
> to the records that go in favour of the applicant? Would it take a long
> time (high costs likely if so) to audit an applicant and after that to
> check compliance? Gale, could you give a description of how you see
> this in practical terms?

So. Why do I think about individual, not organization? In that way we
do not have to make no speculations. All I need is my gut and feeling
of what is right and what is wrong. I can write manifest for my name.
It will be probably the same thing as other people who understand TOP
philosophically will adopt. I know that some people who agree with that
only at declarative level wont accept it and that is actually the
point, as long as it is very popular among politicians to think that
people are cattle/lemmings who do not deserve truth who can not respect
truth, so that todays politics is just an image of what works fine. And
these same people on declarative level are for free speach, freedom of
information, public has the right to know and similar stuff. When I get
oriented to myself only and what i feel, I do not have to think about
these speculations of what other people think, which is rather
importnat thing, I belive.

How does it look like? Like regular manifest. Saying what is not
existing right now, what I am pissed off at, what I believe it is
important and why I do things in a way I do them. Of course, to make
some better thing, stuff needs to be passed through many more brains,
but this is the start that makes sense to me. It has nothing to
certification houses, but mere explanation why TOP anyway? What I want
to do with TOP, why do I work in a TOP manner even when it is not so
opportunistic and why it pays off.

In that way some other “maybe” thinkers might make final decision and
become TOP which is rather important thing.

ATB,

Gale

>
> Best regards,
>
> Serge