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[top-politics] Re: What do we all agree about in this very time?
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>ec: It’s simple mark: PROVE THAT HUMAN BEINGS CAN NOT BE ENTRUSTED WITH THEIR OWN LIFE Philosophically, politically, psychologically…
-M: Strawman. You are not comparing SD2 with EC-D, and you are being painfully PRESUMPTUOUS AGAIN!
>ec: You can only repeat and repeat, you never demonstrate.
-M: I debate SD2 better than you debate EC-D – the evidence is your DODGING!(“meet me in an EU Constitution group” you say like a dodge-wussy.)
>ec: You consider yourself a democrat yet you can only envision a few directors who would direct everybody else.
-M: Doink! The directors are only the generative initial condition. They would create decentralized structures under them. (SD2 is autopoietic – maybe you should study systems theory.)
>ec: You discount the world, you insult most of humanity,…
-M: I describe the world truthfully. Your judgements of my correct descriptions are your own.
>ec:…this is not democratic. It’s elitist and inconsistent, complex and vain.
-M: Your elite anti-elitism is inconsistent. And your failure to realize that EC-D is more elitist and complex than SD2 shows your vanity.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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