Parlement

• 31/01/07 22:51 <MacHiavelli>

  Re: FAQ? and setup

  Hi there. I am very interested in this project but am having some problems assessing what it does and doesn’t do; I hope someone can explain how i get the tool up and running in order to assess its features.

  More generally, I am interested in the web-moderated participative democracy. I am a politics student at an Irish university and interested in sponsoring a project at my college to develop an open source tool that delivers the above functionality. If there are other projects out there in this sphere that you feel are worth knowing about, then please share. Hopefully this can be the beginning of a productive exchange. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  <steve@youknowwhoelselovesit.co.uk>

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  • 08/07/08 17:28 <123> +1 -1
  • 04/03/07 12:20 <eggy>

    I am confused as to how to view the messages. I kept clicking, and the message came and went but repeating the process did not work.

    I now see Mac Hiavelli msg and suppose I am responding to it. How do I respond directly to the FAQ?

    When I click a name, it takes me to choices of message title. I cannot access them. Are they simply votes?

    I did not see Mac Hiavelli message on the main parliament page to access it. ??

    Bruce

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    • 05/03/07 01:17 <eggy>

      I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out there in such a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by second life.

      Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

      I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do not like the direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these “ideas” and the administration of government are completely absent.

      It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A simple link for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional (abbreviated) post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on that post.

      Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy by majority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

      There MUST be POWER! But it must be controlled first by a Constitution which applies to the people as well as the government.

      Power must be divided so one element does not have it all. Law is power, Courts are power, Agencies are power (needed to have retirement and health and education etc.)

      A bit of history will reveal all so no sense my explaining this.

      Bruce Eggum

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      • 21/03/07 14:15 <echarp>
        

        +1

        On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:17:53AM +0100, eggy wrote:

        I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out there insuch a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by second life.Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

        We definitely can. Me, I’m sticking with irc mainly. But klaus, cool guy that he is, has been working on a second life to irc bridge.

        We’ll see how it goes, but it’s a great idea!

        I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do not likethe direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these “ideas” andthe administration of government are completely absent.It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A simplelink for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional (abbreviated)post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on thatpost.

        There also is parlement moderation, which could/should be used to highlight the most interesting parts. Well, that’s the idea anyway.

        Then anybody could browse the forum, with the level of details they feel more confortable with.

        Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy bymajority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

        I think there is mostly one solution: the right to secede. But it’s difficult to even present it…

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        • 01/07/07 00:38 <theprezens> +1 -1
        • 21/03/07 14:39 <eggy>

          Yup, I’ll show them! I will secede! (Just call me “the man without a country”)
          Unfortunately, the imperialists win that way too.

          On 3/21/07, echarp <emmanuel.charpentier@free.fr> wrote:

          +1On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:17:53AM +0100, eggy wrote:

          I joined second life, than un-joined. I do not like my credit card out

          there in

          such a place. There are many who feel they have been ripped off by

          second life.

          Is there an alternative? Can we continue without second life?

          We definitely can. Me, I’m sticking with irc mainly. But klaus, cool guythat he is, has been working on a second life to irc bridge.We’ll see how it goes, but it’s a great idea!

          I did go to the Top Politics board. I can access it on site too. I do

          not like

          the direction of these topics. It seems the implementation of these

          “ideas” and

          the administration of government are completely absent.It certainly is not necessary for Parliament to join Top Politics. A

          simple

          link for those who want to subscribe is sufficient. An occasional

          (abbreviated)

          post of a discussion may be appropriate if the poster has a comment on

          that

          post.

          There also is parlement moderation, which could/should be used tohighlight the most interesting parts. Well, that’s the idea anyway.Then anybody could browse the forum, with the level of details theyfeel more confortable with.

          Also, there is no consideration of the obvious destruction of democracy

          by

          majority vote. This is a Truth learned from past historical attempts.

          I think there is mostly one solution: the right to secede. But it’sdifficult to even present it…

          — Bruce Eggum
          Gresham Wisconsin, USA
          Urge to Surge
          http://tinyurl.com/yndynn
          http://www.doinggovernment.com/
          Check out my Blog too
          http://bruceeggum.blogster.com/

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      • 05/03/07 08:42 <eggy> Used my mIRC and found # Parlement.
        Yikes nobody on IRC -- been few years since I logged on. Most use messengers now I expect or other ways.
        Would have to schedule a meeting to use I expect. eggy +2
        • 21/03/07 14:12 <echarp> +1 Welcome on the old irc world! ;) +1
    • 04/03/07 12:46 <echarp>
      

      I now see Mac Hiavelli msg and suppose I am responding to it. How do I responddirectly to the FAQ?

      I think the main message was in private or something. I don’t have it either. It might be lost!? Will have to dig into that.

      On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:20:59PM +0100, eggy wrote:

      Re: FAQ? and setupI am confused as to how to view the messages. I kept clicking, and the messagecame and went but repeating the process did not work.

      The most important thing to consider, is the filter. But you can override a filter for each element, clicking on the “V” or “>” knobs.

      When I click a name, it takes me to choices of message title. I cannot accessthem. Are they simply votes?

      You can’t access them? Strange, a click should be all that is needed.

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  • 25/03/07 15:31 <mvd_k> +1 -1
  • 05/03/07 01:37 <eggy>

    Hi Steve,
    Glad you joined us.
    I too am learning to access the buttons etc.

    I think, (don’t know) that when you are taken to someones “posts” the ones which say 0 sub are actually votes and nothing to read. I think those which say 1 sub or 4 sub are text which you can read by clicking that element such as the second and forth below.

    - <05/03 01:17> Re: FAQ? and

    setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_10&gt;(0 sub element(s)) +1 – <04/03 20:00> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_8&gt;(1 sub element(s)) -1 – <04/03 19:58> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_7&gt;(0 sub element(s)) -1 – <04/03 12:20> Re: FAQ? and setup<http://leparlement.org/Re_FAQ_and_setup_4&gt;(2 sub element(s))

    To post use the white sheet of paper icon and to vote use the + and – icons. I think this program could do the things necessary to interact with government. When I say government, I do not mean not only Parliament and the Prime Minister. I mean the WHOLE government which includes the courts, law enforcement, agencies, military the WHOLE of it and THAT is what we want to control the WHOLE of it.

    Bruce

    On 3/4/07, MacHiavelli <anon@leparlement.org> wrote:

    Re: FAQ? and setupHi there. I am very interested in this project but am having some problemsassessing what it does and doesn’t do; I hope someone can explain how i getthe tool up and running in order to assess its features.More generally, I am interested in the web-moderated participativedemocracy. I am a politics student at an Irish university and interested insponsoring a project at my college to develop an open source tool thatdelivers the above functionality. If there are other projects out there inthis sphere that you feel are worth knowing about, then please share.Hopefully this can be the beginning of a productive exchange. Thanks andkeep up the good work.Parlement <http://leparlement.org&gt;

    — Bruce Eggum
    Gresham Wisconsin, USA
    Urge to Surge
    http://tinyurl.com/yndynn
    http://www.doinggovernment.com/
    Check out my Blog too
    http://bruceeggum.blogster.com/

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  • 11/02/07 23:52 <MacHiavelli> 0 +0
    • 11/02/07 23:53 <MacHiavelli> 0 -1
      • 04/03/07 20:00 <eggy> 0 -1
        • 04/03/07 20:52 <echarp>
          

          As you can see, there is currently no difference between a vote and a message/proposition.

          That’s partly due to the fact that votes can be done by mail and/or on the web.

          But maybe they could nonetheless be hidden on the web page and only consolidated in another sub page. That will be an evolution, a small one.

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      • 04/03/07 19:58 <eggy> +1 -1
  • 04/03/07 12:31 <echarp> +1 -1
  • 22/04/07 11:16 <JackWilliamBell> +1 -1

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